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Govan Community Council Conference Poverty, deprivation and development in working class communities The Pearce Institute, Govan, Glasgow Monday, 22 November 2004

The Pearce Institute

Community participation and urban regeneration
Dr Charles Collins, School of Social Sciences, Paisley University
John McAllion's discussion of the experience of Whitfield under the New Life for Urban Scotland programme will have reminded many of us of the dark days of the late 1980s - when a right wing government with an ideologically driven hostility to municipal housing was promoting stock transfer on the false basis that it would empower tenants; was forcing local authorities to 'buy into' so-called 'regeneration initiatives' about which they had serious reservations; was talking about tackling poverty at the same time as increasing inequality; and was trying to sell the idea that a 'spirit of enterprise' was what was needed to transform the experience of areas of poverty and deprivation.

Unfortunately, as anyone who is even modestly abreast of the current situation will know, this is by and large what still confronts us today. For the fact is that while the New Life for Urban Scotland programme failed to get even remotely close to achieving the kinds of objectives trumpeted for it in 1988, it has been worryingly successful in another respect. It has been crucial in helping to establish what is seen by politicians, civil servants and people working in the various agencies, local government and the voluntary sector as 'the right basis' - indeed the only basis - on which to develop work towards 'urban regeneration'.

A new consensus has emerged about 'working in partnership', and in reality this means a lot more than it seems to on the surface. It does not just mean that departments, organizations, agencies and communities should all work together to try to bring about the best possible impact on problems. No-one is, or could be, opposed to that - at least in principle (though when one studies relationships at the highest level of government one wonders about what right the current incumbents have to lecture anyone about 'joined-up government' or 'partnership working').

What it means in practical terms is stock transfer, reducing the role of the public sector, promoting 'flexible labour markets' (meaning temporary, non-union labour on poverty wages), and a wholly unrealistic expectation about what the private sector and the 'spirit of enterprise' is ever likely to contribute. In short, it means continuing with all the same themes and ideas which, since 1988, have failed to deliver on stated regeneration objectives. Indeed, at this moment we are in the process of constructing yet another generation of partnerships to work to this agenda - the Community Planning Partnerships which have been made statutory by recent legislation from the Scottish Parliament.

Just how significant the history of failure behind all this has been has become more apparent over the past 5 years or so. The New Life programme established 'partnerships' in 4 areas - Whitfield, Wester Hailes, Castlemilk and Ferguslie Park. They were to have a 10 year life-span and were to transform the areas as a demonstration of the virtues of the 'partnership approach'. The final evaluation of their implementation was published in 1999. Unfortunately, New Labour gave a ringing endorsement to the New Life model a year in advance of the evaluation - and so made the 'partnership approach' the basis of their social inclusion programme and the SIPs. What the evaluation subsequently showed, when one read beyond the very carefully worded, and somewhat misleading, executive summary, was the extent of the failure of the New Life partnerships.

There was £485 million worth of expenditure in just these 4 areas. This, of course, brought housing and environmental improvements - though at the expense of other areas that were starved of investment to pay for it - but by no means on the comprehensive scale that had been envisaged. Labour market participation fell in two of the four areas, and did not seem to impact on the original populations. Beyond housing, the research could turn up no significant improvements in the quality of life on the estates, and in several respects things seemed to get worse. 'Partnership working' amounted to much too little in practice, and local participation on the whole seemed to prove to be a disempowering experience for community groups, and was in some areas disastrous. Yet this 'partnership approach' was what the SIPs were meant to take forward - and with far less in the way of resources to fund them.

Little wonder then that they seem also to have failed. This is made clear in research that was carried out for Communities Scotland to inform the current move to community planning - and the integration of the SIPs into that framework. The difference is that in this report there is no attempt made to mask the reality of the failure. The twist comes in terms of the blame. There is nothing wrong with the basic 'partnership' model, it is claimed. The problem is with the implementers. In future, implementers will have to do better, and will have to be held accountable where they do not. It is time, the report concludes for a "ruthless recognition" of weaknesses in implementation. Of course, where in the New Life programme it was the government themselves who were the lead implementers, now it is local authorities who are to be charged with that responsibility. The irony that we recognise implementation weaknesses at this stage will not be lost on people here today.

Thus the scenario for the coming phase of regeneration policy in Scotland is one that should cause real concern. Local authorities will have a statutory responsibility to lead Community Planning Partnerships which, among other things, will have to 'close the gap' between the poorest communities and the rest of the country. They will be obliged to work on the basis of the 'partnership' approach that has not worked in the past and is not likely to start working now. They will then be held accountable, and blamed, for it not working. They will become even more the target for the frustrations and resentments of local community groups. Indeed they will be expected to facilitate their meaningful participation, despite the fact that they are saddled with an approach which has been shown to have led to the exact opposite of that when central government were themselves in the driving seat. It is a situation in which localities can only lose, and in which we are likely to see further centralisation of power in Edinburgh.

It is, in other words, a situation that cries out for change. We have heard this morning a number of suggestions for change in key areas, and in the coming workshops we will have the opportunity to discuss these and make suggestions.

Mike Dailly highlighted the need for change in housing policy. What we have had for the past 25 years has been more of a tenure than a housing policy - and the earlier priority given to concerns about the quantity and quality of affordable housing has been at best secondary to that. We need to think about how housing policy must change if we are to have stable and balanced communities within rented housing. What are the implications in terms of rents and housing finance? Who is going to provide this housing? Mike Dailly also pointed to problems in the planning system, and to the need to give much greater priority for planning for such stable and balanced communities. What are the changes that are required here?

But in thinking about housing and planning we also come up against some of the broader assumptions of current government thinking that were mentioned by Mike Danson. For the government's broader economic strategies, as expressed in Smart Successful Scotland and the Framework for Economic Development that underpins it, seem to presume not just the continuation of housing and planning policy along current lines, but their intensificiation - more stock transfers to access private capital, a loosening of democratic controls on planning, to say nothing of the continuing emphases on the supply side, flexible labour markets and entrepreneurship that have in the past failed to deliver for areas in need of regeneration. Just how is it that we might conceive a framework for economic development in Scotland that works for local communities seeking regeneration, rather than against them?

And of course John McAllion and myself have talked about some of the specifics and some of the generalities in what is called 'community regeneration' at the moment. Here too there seems to be a clear need for change. This is likely to require that at least some in the local authorities are willing to break away from the 'group think' identified by Baillie Flanagan - according to which anyone who dissents from the prevailing consensus about 'the right' approach is deemed to be a bit mad. What needs to be made clear is that the irrationality in this discussion lies among those who continue to adhere to a model which has been shown to fail over such a protracted period. So, how might community groups develop their own assessment of the failures of the 'partnership' model, and how might they seek to develop an alternative? What would that alternative model look like? How might communities build a coalition which could project that alternative as a serious contender in public debate? In the current context we should be aware that at least some local authorities could be brought into this. The move to community planning seems to hold real dangers for them, and if they can be made aware of this then perhaps community groups and local authorities might begin to rebuild relations and raise critical questions about the 'partnership' approach to regeneration.

These are just a few of the areas and issues that have arisen today. The proposal is that now we should break into two groups and try to identify the 3 key policy changes that we think are required if we are to bring about meaningful and sustainable improvements in the lives of working class communities in Scotland today. Groups should then feed back their suggestions when we reconvene.

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MRC:: An Open and Shut Case Govanhill baths

The prestigious Medical Research Council has published its study: An Open and Shut Case. An investigation of the health impacts of local swimming pool provision in two Glasgow neighbourhoods. (Pollokshaws and Govanhill)It concluded;

* Closure of a local amenity may add to residents feelings of lack of choice and control.
* Neighbourhood amenities, like public swimming pools, may promote positive mental health and wellbeing among local residents by providing a safe public space for meeting people
* Links between casual social contact among residents and positive mental health may be explained by reducing feelings of stress, isolation and sharing common difficulties of life
* Certain groups such as the elderly, parents with young children and those with no access to a car may particularly benefit from local amenity provision

* A range of different types is required to cater for different resident groups.

The full report is available here, and makes fascinating reading particularly the many direct comments from local people. The study was conducted completely independently of the Save Our Pool Campaign and this Trust. However it echoes strongly the results of our own study (available on request) of 300 local residents in 2001.

Blasts from the Past! : Westminster Parliament Report

In 2001 the Save Our Pool presented to Parliament in Westminster our case for the preservation of the baths. This was in a context where MP Gerald Hoffman had instigated a formal investigation into “the Sport of Swimming”. Campaigners from all over the UK who were trying to save their local community swimming pools (often in Listed buildings) from demolition by local authorities and against the wishes of local people were invited to put their case to the Committee. In Glasgow’s case it concluded;

The Government and its policies will be assessed on the way it has been delivered. This report from the Calder Street Pool demonstrates that in so many policy documents and reports, Government and public policies are not being implemented at the local council level, in Glasgow and many examples throughout the country.

The report was completely ignored by the Scottish Executive and Glasgow City Council.

Far more than a swimming pool
It was a baths and a bathing house for the health, recreation and fitness of the people where ... Govanhill Pool indelibly marks a Scottish sense of place!

http://www.scottishleftreview.org/php/upload/I12AJ.htm (Scottish Left Review)
Latest Evening Times Report

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5036348

“We want a wind turbine” on the top of Queens Park….
The money generated from our scheme could go towards funding community causes, such as the Govanhill Baths Trust.
Submission of final bid to council

As a result of the concerns we expressed about the funding requirement modifications have been made and these are attached below in a letter from Steve Inch Director of DRS Glasgow. As you will see we no longer need to have funds in place by 14th March 2006 - a requirement that as we explained would have been quite impossible.
Letter from Steve Inch
I refer to your most recent exchange of emails with Frank Sheridan regarding the above. Unfortunately Frank is on annual leave and I am unable to discuss the contents with him for the time being.
I write however, to acknowledge that I am fully aware of the complexities of raising funding for a project of this nature, and of the timescales involved in dealing with the principal funding sources.
I am therefore prepared to amend the Council’s position to ensure that you have the maximum opportunity to develop your proposals. By the 14th March deadline I would therefore ask you to provide me with

(a) copy of your detailed feasibility study and development proposal
(b) copy of the proposed income sources for the capital works, with copies of applications to funding sources and an indication of the timescales for their decisions, and
(c) copies of the income and expenditure plan for the project once it is complete, demonstrating that it can operate on a financially viable basis.

I accept therefore that you will be unable to have funding from all sources confirmed by 14th March but would expect you to be able to clearly demonstrate what funding sources you are targeting for contributions, that applications for funding have been made, and when you expect the decisions to be taken.

This will provide me with sufficient information to prepare a progress report to the DRS Committee.
I trust you will find this helpful.
Media Release Archive
DRS response

Council consider Govanhill Baths Community Trust application

London Pools Campiagn/ Access to the baths

Regeneration Services plans/ Council's media release / End of February news

Council's position on Govanhill Baths "surplus to requirements"/ Other early February news

Diving into action! News articles

Recent quotes about the pool

More quotes

City Centre ask for interest in baths


See attachment for layout

Govanhill Baths

Community Trust
Registered Scottish Charity No: SC 036162
Recent Media Releases

http://www.geocities.com/govanhillbaths/index.html

N.B. If you find problems with this, above, website they are in the process of being rectified so do keep in touch. Thanks for your support.

Contact us at govanhillbaths@yahoo.co.uk for more information.

MRC: An Open and Shut Case

The prestigious Medical Research Council has published its study: An Open and Shut Case. An investigation of the health impacts of local swimming pool provision in two Glasgow neighbourhoods. (Pollokshaws and Govanhill)
It concluded;
* Closure of a local amenity may add to residents feelings of lack of choice and control.
* Neighbourhood amenities, like public swimming pools, may promote positive mental health and wellbeing among local residents by providing a safe public space for meeting people
* Links between casual social contact among residents and positive mental health may be explained by reducing feelings of stress, isolation and sharing common difficulties of life
* Certain groups such as the elderly, parents with young children and those with no access to a car may particularly benefit from local amenity provision

* A range of different types is required to cater for different resident groups.



The full report is available here, and makes fascinating reading particularly the many direct comments from local people. The study was conducted completely independently of the Save Our Pool Campaign and this Trust. However it echoes strongly the results of our own study (available on request) of 300 local residents in 2001.



Blasts from the Past! : Westminster Parliament Report

In 2001 the Save Our Pool presented to Parliament in Westminster our case for the preservation of the baths. This was in a context where MP Gerald Hoffman had instigated a formal investigation into “the Sport of Swimming”. Campaigners from all over the UK who were trying to save their local community swimming pools (often in Listed buildings) from demolition by local authorities and against the wishes of local people were invited to put their case to the Committee. In Glasgow’s case it concluded;



The Government and its policies will be assessed on the way it has been delivered. This report from the Calder Street Pool demonstrates that in so many policy documents and reports, Government and public policies are not being implemented at the local council level, in Glasgow and many examples throughout the country.



The report was completely ignored by the Scottish Executive and Glasgow City Council.



Far more than a swimming pool


It was a baths and a bathing house for the health, recreation and fitness of the people where ... Govanhill Pool indelibly marks a Scottish sense of place!



http://www.scottishleftreview.org/php/upload/I12AJ.htm (Scottish Left Review)



Latest Evening Times Report

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5036348



“We want a wind turbine” on the top of Queens Park….



The money generated from our scheme could go towards funding community causes, such as the Govanhill Baths Trust.





Submission of final bid to council



As a result of the concerns we expressed about the funding requirement modifications have been made and these are attached below in a letter from Steve Inch Director of DRS Glasgow. As you will see we no longer need to have funds in place by 14th March 2006 - a requirement that as we explained would have been quite impossible.



Letter from Steve Inch



I refer to your most recent exchange of emails with Frank Sheridan regarding the above. Unfortunately Frank is on annual leave and I am unable to discuss the contents with him for the time being.



I write however, to acknowledge that I am fully aware of the complexities of raising funding for a project of this nature, and of the timescales involved in dealing with the principal funding sources.



I am therefore prepared to amend the Council’s position to ensure that you have the maximum opportunity to develop your proposals. By the 14th March deadline I would therefore ask you to provide me with:



(a) copy of your detailed feasibility study and development proposal

(b) copy of the proposed income sources for the capital works, with copies of applications to funding sources and an indication of the timescales for their decisions, and

(c) copies of the income and expenditure plan for the project once it is complete, demonstrating that it can operate on a financially viable basis.



I accept therefore that you will be unable to have funding from all sources confirmed by 14th March but would expect you to be able to clearly demonstrate what funding sources you are targeting for contributions, that applications for funding have been made, and when you expect the decisions to be taken.



This will provide me with sufficient information to prepare a progress report to the DRS Committee.



I trust you will find this helpful.



Media Release Archive



DRS response

Council consider Govanhill Baths Community Trust application

London Pools Campiagn/ Access to the baths

Regeneration Services plans/ Council's media release / End of February news

Council's position on Govanhill Baths "surplus to requirements"/ Other early February news

Diving into action! News articles

Recent quotes about the pool

More quotes

City Centre ask for interest in baths




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GOVANHILLBATHS COMMUNITY TRUST UPDATE 23 Appointment of Architects

After a very considerable architectural interest from a range of prestigious Glasgow and Edinburgh companies in our Project to re-open Govanhill Baths as a Healthy Living Centre , we have now appointed NORD Architects of Glasgow to proceed with our feasibility study and options analysis.

Two of NORD’s directors were project architects on the Tramway redevelopment development in Glasgow and NORD have just been included in The Architect journal's top 40 young British Practices.

We attach for your interest the vision that they have for the project. VISION

NORD DESIGN STATEMENT


NORD’s aim is to assist the Govanhill Baths Trust in determining the future for the Baths. The restoration of the 3 existing pools has been a key focus as part of a scheme for the whole building that will be financially sustainable for years to come. The current plans for the restoration of the full site at Calder Street includes a mixture of uses throughout different parts of the building which will offer a mixed use programme that is both physically and culturally sustainable for the building. Consultation with community members, the Trust’s Board, Glasgow Health Board, users of the closed baths and consideration of local needs from a recreative, health and sporting perspective has enabled us to produce a typical ‘day in the life’ diagrams which shows the full potential of the building as a Healthy Living Centre creating a community resource which will breath life back in to Govanhill.

KEY CHARACTERISTICS:
Govanhill Baths is a fine example of the high quality of social amenities provided in Nineteenth and early Twentieth Century Scotland. At this time Bath Houses were seen as a way of promoting cleanliness, exercise and the general self-improvement for the working classes.

Wash baths housed in cubicles in the upper level of the front building to Calder Street provided the local community with private washing facilities largely absent from working class dwellings. The building also housed a full Turkish Baths suite.

Facilities at Govanhill Pool were quite unique in the context of Glasgow in recent times with a segregated pool for men and women offering members of the BME communities a private bathing experience a facility absent from contemporary leisure pools.

The 2 main pools have changing cabins and are equipped with separate showers, the largest of the pools was historically a Gala pool in which civic events took place, seating is provided in the gallery for spectators again a key feature missing from most contemporary leisure pools.

Another notable feature is the stepped access to the main pool a feature much commented upon and welcomed by the physically impaired and elderly where entering the pool is a gradual process and non exclusive.

In one hundred years, whilst alterations and modifications have occurred, many have not been highly intrusive. Much of the original construction materials and finishes remain in situ and intact, presenting an invaluable opportunity to conserve a significant example of a type of building unique to the social conditions and political will prevalent at the time of construction. Listed grade ‘B’ The Govanhill Pool is one of the few Glasgow Bath Houses still standing. This would suggest that it is of great importance to Glasgow’s built heritage.

DESIGN TEAM

NORD’s approach has been guided by technical back up from Synergy water technology who are experts in the field of swimming pool technology and filtration systems. Synergy water technology have carried out a visual survey of the existing filtration system and associated plant and appendix 1 should be referred to for a summary of their findings. Along with Synergy NORD have been working with Buro Happold Engineers with whom we have a close working relationship. They offer specialist services in accessibility, environmental, fire engineering, structural and services strategies. NORD and Buro Happold have worked together on Tramway, where a services budget of £850,000 was married with an innovative fire engineering strategy. NORD and Buro Happold have also worked together on the £650,000 Royston recording Studios, £5.5 million pound McCormick Printworks redevelopment project and currently on the £550,000 Timespan Heritage Centre refurbishment. All of these projects have included the refurbishment of an existing Listed Building where budget constraints have focused the design team on an economical and integrated design and services approach. NORD and Buro Happold’s invaluable experience of working with buildings of this nature; similar in construction to the Govanhill Pool with similar technical requirements would help shape any future Applications for funding which are ambitious but economically realistic. NORD have a good working relationship with Glasgow’s Building Control Department. We feel our understanding of current technical legislation will help during the design development process. Buro Happold have outlined potential environmental strategies for the building and these should be referred to in Appendix 2.

DESIGN APPROACH AND ACCESS STRATEGY

NORD’s approach has been one of consolidation where the potential of existing spaces has been explored before offering up any new additions to the building. The key strategy for the building is the creation of a new internal ‘street’ incorporating a clear access / circulation strategy. The strategy allows a currently restrictive floor plan to offer links between existing spaces which currently do not exist while creating new opportunities for linkages to new spaces. The new internal street while offering better circulation throughout the building also allows the three pools to function independently. The ‘street’ acts as a central spine which connects the ‘wash house’ at the rear to the stone built front building on Calder Street. This simple move is then strengthened by the creation of a new feature staircase, which allows vertical circulation to the upper level and new external roof garden.

The positioning of a social space or new type of public space would be a key focus in the organisational strategy for the building encouraging cultural and social interaction and providing an environment where these interactions can occur. The potential for a range of more flexible spaces and in general ‘flexibility’ would be achieved through a comprehensive understanding of the life cycle of the building including day to day activities. A detailed understanding of the future potential of the building would be achieved through consultation with user group and client in workshop type forums which are continually evolving.

A new community garden has been proposed which moves the entrance and ramped access away from their existing restricted position on Calder Street to a position further east. This new public interface allows the building to connect more comfortably with the street creating an external social space where bikes can be parked, people can meet and events can happen. This new external space allows the creation of a new ‘focal’ point entrance giving way to an open plan foyer space, which marks the beginning of the internal ‘street’.

These outline proposals have already been presented to a large community meeting organized by the GBCT where they met with very considerable approval and enthusiasm. They have also been presented to a small group of the local politicians including Anne- Marie Miller, Malcolm Cunning and Frank McAveatie in a meeting held with Trust’s Board. Again they appeared here to meet with approval.

NORD have a reputation for being innovative in their architectural style and approach and with The Govanhill Pool NORD would strive to create a building in Govanhill which is architecturally inspirational, visually attractive, multi-functional and a strong focus for the local community.






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Govanhill Baths Community Trust UPDATE 22 (October 12th 2005)

After another highly successful and profitable car boot sale at Polmadie last Saturday, Friends of Govanhill Baths decided to hold the event on a monthly. The next will be held on Saturday 5th November. Good quality saleable bric a brac, and goods of any sort warmly welcomed. We have a sales team that can sell anything to anyone!1. Car Boot Sale


After another highly successful and profitable car boot sale at Polmadie last Saturday, Friends of Govanhill Baths decided to hold the event on a monthly. The next will be held on Saturday 5th November. Good quality saleable bric a brac, and goods of any sort warmly welcomed. We have a sales team that can sell anything to anyone!



2. Continuing correspondence with Development and Regeneration Services



Letter to Steve Inch Director of Development and Regeneration Services suggesting that pointing out our continued concerns about the conditions laid on the Trust in the context of Community Planning Partnerships and calling for a meeting with his officials. We await a reply.



Dear Steve Inch,



Thank you for your letter in which you specify amendments to the original conditions set down in a letter we had received from Mr. Frank Sheridan of 10th September 2005. We note its contents and in particular that, “copies of applications to funding sources and an indication of the time scales for their decisions” is now required by 14th March 2005 as opposed to the original requirement that all funds should be in place by then.



Whilst we are pleased with this most critical and important change there are we think serious matters that arise from it.



We would like to echo the point made in our last letter that we are seriously concerned on how a department such as yours and subsequently an elected sub-committee arrived at allocating a timeframe of six months in which to develop our proposal. You say in your letter that it is the ‘council’s position to ensure that you (Trust) have the maximum opportunity to develop your proposal’. We assume that the six months allocation is based on previous experience of similar projects and can be realistically achieved. The Trust would hope that the council could identify previous proposals so as to assist and guide us in developing our proposal.



We have consulted with a wide range of expertise and indeed through advertising and interviewing selected a prestigious local architectural company to proceed with our options analysis and feasibility study. Unanimously the view has been expressed that the conditions laid down were clearly those that would almost certainly guarantee failure at the first hurdle. More so was this the case, as we suggested in our last letter, was the fact that we have been pitched against a national company that will have available full professional services and the capital costs for its proposals!



The Trust would like to take this opportunity to let the council know what we believes can be realistically achieved by the deadline set.

a) a copy of the completed feasibility or near completed feasibility study and development proposal

b) a copy of the proposed income sources for capital works, and proposed applications to funding sources and indication of the timescales for their decisions, and

c) a copy of the Trust’s business plan for the project demonstrating its financial viability.



This, after having taken advice is we believe a realistic assessment of what is achievable in the next five months.



Within the spirit of the new legislation in respect of Community Planning Partnerships it really is rather surprising that a Community Trust such as ours should be treated so aggressively. More so that as soon as we objected the decision was changed immediately. This process in itself has added valuable time to the process, time taken out of the scale set. Indeed, we are left to wonder why and how such a decision was made in the first place.



Now, we recently reported on our web commitments made by the council leader, Stephen Purcell at the recent East Pollokshields Community Planning Meeting chaired by Lord Best of the Rowntree Trust at which the leader was a keynote speaker.;



· he was totally committed to the concept of community partnership and had ensured that he would chair the council group in this area.

· there would be a need to change the culture in the council in respect of how decisions were made and he was "well up for the debate about how decisions were made".

· social renewal and regeneration were at the heart of the agenda and there was a need for there to be more focus on people.

· the Council's role along with Community Partnerships was to tackle problems identified by people and show that people can make a difference

After some discussion our Board has come to the view that if indeed it is the case that, “social renewal and regeneration are at heart of the agenda and there was a need for there to be more focus on people” as leader Purcell stated, then we should be given an opportunity to properly discuss the arrangements you have imposed, since, having been through the process of selecting an architect it has become clear that all of the prestigious companies we interviewed with regard to the feasibility study would have found the time scale set most onerous and well nigh impossible. In this regard we note that the council itself in its original feasibility study completed by EDAW and Park and Page set down a limit of 6 months for its delivery and in fact it was published some 8 months late!

Thus we would propose that a meeting should be arranged that would involve yourselves, our appointed architect, our project manager and representatives of our Board and possibly one or two of our partners. The function of such a meeting would be to properly share a delivery agenda that is not just built on a straight business and property transaction principles but also fully incorporates what the leader has clearly placed very high on the council’s policy agenda in respect of Community Planning Partnerships.

Yours sincerely

Secretary GBCT



3. Evening Times Report www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5036348





We want a 200ft wind turbine - on the top of Queen's Park ...
The money generated from our scheme could go towards funding community causes,
such as the Govanhill Baths Trust.



4. The prestigious Medical Research Council has published its study: An Open and Shut Case. An investigation of the health impacts of local swimming pool provision in two Glasgow neighbourhoods. (Pollokshaws and Govanhill)



It concluded;



Closure of a local amenity may add to residents feelings of lack of choice and control.
Neighbourhood amenities, like public swimming pools, may promote positive mental health and wellbeing among local residents by providing a safe public space for meeting people
Links between casual social contact among residents and positive mental health may be explained by reducing feelings of stress, isolation and sharing common difficulties of life
Certain groups such as the elderly, parents with young children and those with no access to a car may particularly benefit from local amenity provision



A range of different types is required to cater for different resident groups.



The full report is attached and makes fascinating reading particularly the many direct comments from local people. The study was conducted completely independently of the Save Our Pool Campaign and this Trust. However it echoes strongly the results of our own study (available on request) of 300 local residents in 2001.



See attached



4. Blasts from the Past!



a. Westminster Parliament Report

In 2001 the Save Our Pool presented to Parliament in Westminster our case for the preservation of the baths. This was in a context where MP Gerald Hoffman had instigated a formal investigation into “the Sport of Swimming”. Campaigners from all over the UK who were trying to save their local community swimming pools (often in Listed buildings) from demolition by local authorities and against the wishes of local people were invited to put their case to the Committee. In Glasgow’s case it concluded;

The Government and its policies will be assessed on the way it has been delivered. This report from the Calder Street Pool demonstrates that in so many policy documents and reports, Government and public policies are not being implemented at the local council level, in Glasgow and many examples throughout the country.

The report was completely ignored by the Scottish Executive and Glasgow City Council.



5. Far more than a swimming pool



It was a baths and a bathing house for the health, recreation and fitness of the people where ... Govanhill Pool indelibly marks a Scottish sense of place!



www.scottishleftreview.org/php/upload/I12AJ.htm

Scottish Left Review



6. Next Friends of Govanhill Pool: meeting at Daisy Street Neighbourhood Centre Tuesday 25th October 2005. 7-30pm. All welcome







ENDS



Memorandum submitted by Govanhill Pool (Save Our Pool), Glasgow

"The purpose of the pool campaign is to ensure that the Calder Street Pool is reopened as a publicly funded Healthy Living Centre. The Centre would be for the use and improvement in health and sport of all the residents in Govanhill and surrounding areas."

INDEX OF THE REPORT

1. History of Calder Street Baths
2. The Govanhill Area
3. The Process of Closure
4. Funding
5. Has Funding New Pools been the Answer?
6. Pool Campaign
7. Health Issues
8. Political Support
9. Religious Support
10. Media
11. Thank you for Listening
12. In Summary
13. Recommendations for Consideration

1. HISTORY OF CALDER STREET BATHS

1.1 History

The Calder Street Baths were opened in around 1914. It is a Grade IIB listed building. The building has many similar features to swimming pools built around that period such as the Victoria Baths in Manchester.

1.2 Facilities available

(a) Large main pool especially useful for lane swimming.

(b) A smaller pool that was especially used for segregated swimming to cater for the large ethnic population in the local area. Ethnic females, for religious reasons, are not able to bathe in open public areas.

(c) A teaching pool that was used for teaching children to swim, and was especially useful for teaching of special needs children—the pool was used by four local special needs schools (Hollybrook, St Oswalds, Kirkriggs and Carnbooth), all of which have lost swim time since the closure of the pool).

There were also gym facilities and a sauna and steam room. The laundrette and bathtubs were closed despite 700 households in the area not having bathing facilities, ie no bath or shower.

1.3 Usage of the facilities

There were 200,000 users of the pool in recent years. Like similar pools around the country, the facility has not been maintained and appeared to be deliberately under-funded allowing the building to fall into disrepair. This led to frequent temporary closures of the pool due to mechanical problems with the boiler and other apparatus. Glasgow City Council estimates that in the last year before closure there were only 80,000 users. Figures for usage were grossly inaccurate as machines used for counting apparently often did not work and were delayed from being repaired; swim days were also lost due to above cited problems. Swimming groups were counted as one user when in fact there were up to 200 users in the club.

2. THE GOVANHILL AREA

The Govanhill area of Glasgow is one of the most deprived areas of the city with poor health, high unemployment and crime a major concern. Govanhill lies within the Shettleston constituency, officially the unhealthiest and most deprived in Britain. There is a diverse mix of ethnic and religious groups in the local area. Like many deprived inner city areas around the country Govanhill faces the threat of closure of many local facilities and amenities. Local perceptions that the area is in decline were confirmed in a study what was carried out by the Scottish Council Foundation, this study identified Govanhill as a community "at risk". A key local concern uncovered by this study was the loss and deterioration of local facilities.

This was recognised in the document Sport Life for You "Low levels of car ownership result in a lack of personal mobility and coupled with low levels of income and territoriality amongst young people place major constraints on their participation in sport and recreation.

Sport Scotland also state that sport such as swimming can make a positive impact on young people in particular. As it provides an opportunity for personal and social development and a positive alternative to crime, drug and alcohol abuse. Naturally it improves health and fitness and can boost confidence and self esteem, teach leadership, teamwork and social skills that can be used in all aspects of life. It also offers valuable lessons on how to win and how to lose. It teaches the benefit of hard work and how to treat others with self-respect.

The pool should not only be preserved for preservations sake but should be preserved because it responds to the needs of the local community—multi-cultural as well as poor health and suffering multiple deprivation.

3. THE PROCESS OF CLOSURE

3.1 Initially

When opposition parties in Glasgow first raised concern about the possible closure this was denied by the Council and elected Councillors. The information give to the Scottish Parliament led Rhona Brankin, Junior Minister in response to questions about the closure of another neighbouring pool, to state in December 1999, that Govanhill offered one of the best provisions in Scotland.

3.2 Council makes a decision

At some state during the year attitudes to the pool suddenly changed. It is difficult to know when Glasgow City Council made the decision, as there was no apparent record of the decision being made to close the pool by the Culture and Leisure Department, whose Director is Bridget McConnell, wife of the Jack McConnell, now the First Minister. In January 2001 was the first time that it was officially confirmed after months of denial that the Council had decided to close the pool. In February 2001 the matter was due to be discussed by the Council Finance Committee. However, before this finance meeting letters were made available at the pool signed by the Council Leader stating that the pool would be closing, at the end of March, stating that the pool had "past its sell by date", and also implied that the decision had already been taken to close the pool. At the crucial finance meeting the local elected councillor who could have objected to the closure was absent, leaving nobody to
speak on behalf of the local community. Instead of writing to the chair of the Finance Committee, he had written to the Labour Chief Executive. This ensured that there were no objections at the meeting that approved the closure as a budget cut.

3.3 Pool users informed

In January 2001 Council officials informed swimming clubs of the closure and some were allocated a pool in Castlemilk several miles away. They were not given an opportunity to use either of the two new pools.

3.4 Community Council

The Community Council was not properly informed of the proposal before closure. The Council has now disbanded the local Community Councils as the democratically elected local representatives have tried to discuss the pool closure.

3.5 Feasibility Study

After the public outcry from the local community and in Glasgow of yet another pool closure in the city a feasibility study was commenced to put forward proposals for the pool building. The remit for EDAW, the appointed consultants, was partial and full demolition as well as the possibility of some kind of pool facility. Re-opening the pool with public funding was not an option, limiting the remit of the feasibility study.

EDAW, the contractors appointed by GCC to undertake the feasibility study have refused to talk to any community resident or local business that would involve re-opening all three pools or any Council funding as it was not in their remit.

EDAW finally recognised the importance of Community consultation and sent out thousands of questionnaires to selected local residents on 16 November 2001. This is nearly five months after they commenced the survey. The questionnaire stated that funding was "unlikely" to be available for the main pool. This is incorrect given that a proper evaluation has not been carried out. The questionnaire officially recognised that most local residents support the pool being re-opened. Options that EDAW included were demolishing a Grade IIB listed building and reusing it for a variety of different uses. The questionnaire is completely biased to the Council preferred options.

3.6 Title Deeds

In a previous case GCC were prevented from building on the Glasgow Green, a local park, because it was revealed the Title Deeds stated that the park was to be retained for the good of the people of Glasgow. In the case of the Calder Street Baths GCC are taking extraordinary measures to prevent local people viewing the Title Deeds of the building. The Official Council solicitor stated that GCC is withholding the title deeds every attempt will be made to prevent their disclosure on the building. The Council has refused to allow anyone to view the Title Deeds of the Calder Street building even after legal representation had been made. It makes it very interesting that such vital documents are being withheld after what happened at Glasgow Green.

4. FUNDING

4.1 Sport Scotland/Lottery Funding

Glasgow City Council received substantial grants from Sport Scotland, which they do not appear to be required to give any account of their expenditure. We have tried on numerous occasions to obtain clarification from Sport Scotland about how they monitor how the money is spent. To date they have not replied to our correspondence or appear to have any proper accountable procedures to avoid misuse of funds.

A swimming group using the pool has not been able to obtain any kind of public funding, as the funding maximum expenditure threshold is quite low. An example, swimming group had an annual budget of £15,500. This is £500 over the level eligible for lottery funding. As a result they are not able to receive any lottery funding for their group.

4.2 Scottish Heritage/Civic Trust

The building is listed and is on the "at risk" register by the Scottish Civic Trust. There is a real fear that the Council plan to demolish this listed building as they have done in other parts of the city.

4.3 Scottish Executive

The Scottish Executive has had a huge under spend, despite this they have stated that they are unable to assist in local matters. However, the Scottish Executive were able to offer assistance for Hampden which is in the local area of the pool and Sighthill where the Council has accommodated refugees.

4.4 Glasgow City Council

4.4.1 Maintenance of old pools

There is clear evidence that Councils do not want to maintain old historic buildings. Such buildings are often deliberately under-funded so that they are run-down making closure more likely. This is clearly a form of "institutional vandalism". The Convenor of the Cultural and Leisure Services stated that "The Labour Group believe that smaller swimming pools like Calder Street are past their useful life and their retention is considered impossible." This apparent short-sighted attitude appears to be a prevalent attitude of many inner city councils around the country of many political persuasions. In Calder Street this meant that loose tile were stuck back with sticky tape rather than proper tiling grout ensuring that further water penetration and damage occurred.

At one time Glasgow had 25 public bathhouses, all in the traditional Victorian style. Govanhill was the last remaining pool of this type in Glasgow, the only other which is still in operation, has been extensively refurbished and has lost many of its original features. The loss of Govanhill would thus be a devastating blow to the architectural heritage and social history of the city.

The most intensive period of culling of Victorian bathhouses in Glasgow has taken place over the past 20 years. To our knowledge there are at least three other Victorian bath houses in Glasgow which were closed in the last five years and which currently still lied boarded up and unused. These bathhouses are typically located in inner city areas and are very much community facilities, accessed mostly on foot by local residents. Govanhill pool was regarded as such a community facility and was accessed mostly by people who lived within a one to two mile radius of the pool, mostly on foot or local transport. The Council has chosen to cut down on the level of service by building a far smaller number of leisure facilities, to which people are expected to travel over longer distances.

The ethnic minority community also face significant barriers to using these local facilities because of the open, glass walled architectural style, prohibiting use for those, particularly women of the Islamic faith. Govanhill pools extensive use by the local (and wider) ethnic minority community demonstrates that not only is the pool a historic building with strong heritage value but that it is also a very relevant building to the contemporary needs of a multi-cultural community.

4.4.2 Security costs

Glasgow City Council has spent tens of thousands of pounds for security officers for a peaceful campaign. This money could have been better spent keeping the pool open for another year whilst a proper public consultation took place.

4.5 Other sources of funding

As there has been no formal process enabling alternative sources to be found from resident and business donations, health board and other charitable groups. This was possible, before closure by the Council, working with the local community if the intention was to save the pool.

5. HAS FUNDING NEW POOLS BEEN THE ANSWER?

5.1 Environmentally unfriendly

One of the new pools was built on a site with a history of subsidence. Another new pool has glass fronted sides unsuitable to certain ethnic groups for religious reasons. Glass buildings need a lot more maintenance in the long term and are not environmentally friendly as there are more heating and air-conditioning costs.

5.2 Leisure pools not swimming pools

The new facilities are unsuitable for swimming clubs, as they are leisure pools. They are not deep enough nor do they have adequate if any spectator galleries for competitions and swimming galas.

5.3 Poor public transport access

The location of these facilities is unsuitable for access by public transport—both of the facilities to which Govanhill residents have been redirected to—Gorbals and Bellahouston—require either two buses or a bus and a long walk. This is proving prohibitive for non-car owners, the elderly, disabled, and those with families. New pools had been built with poor transport access to areas losing pools.

5.4 Territorial problems

A further barrier for young people is the territorialism which exists between Govanhill and the Gorbals, unfortunately young people will not travel into what is regarded as a "rival area", where there safety is at risk, and are choosing not to swim at all.

Some of the swimming groups that used the Calder Street Pool state that there has been a 50 per cent drop in numbers. There has been a similar drop in GP referrals for health rehabilitation patients.

6. POOL CAMPAIGN

6.1 How a pool campaign began

Like other pools around the country that faced a similar uncertain future it was clear that local support needed to be established. The Pool Campaign arose and was established to ensure that another local facility was not lost without local support.

There had been rumours for a long time that the Calder Street Baths could close. Elected Councillors and Council officials always denied this. There was no effective debate about the closure either before during or after closure.

The Mission Statement of the campaign is "The purpose of the pool campaign is to ensure that the Calder Street Pool is re-opened as a publicly funded Healthy Living Centre. The Centre would be for the use and improvement in health of all the residents in Govanhill and surrounding areas."

The Campaign started when it became clear in January 2001 that the pool could close, The Campaign has always been peaceful and non-violent. When it became clear that the Council was following the DAD principles:

Decided on a policy without any proper consultation;

Announced a policy without any proper consultation; and

Defended that policy without any proper consultation.

6.2 High Profile Action

It became clear that when the local elected representative Councillors were not willing to discuss the matter attention needed to be drawn to the Calder Street Pool. An occupation of the building began to preserve the building and prevent any vandalism or theft-taking place from this local facility. The occupation lasted over a hundred days whilst the Council deliberated on the course of action to take. Clearly they under-estimated the strength of local feeling and highlighted that the Council was not following Government guidelines to actively seek local support and ideas in the decision making process. The occupation ended on 7 August with the Council implementing an eviction order. The approach the Council adopted shocked people throughout Glasgow and Scotland. The Police involvement on the day is now under investigation by Fife Constabulary.

6.3 Support Days

Various Gala Days and events ranging from rallies to bike rides were organised at which hundreds of local people turned up to support. There is widespread support for the campaign all over the city.

6.4 Petition

Tens of thousands of people have signed the petition to keep the pool open.

6.5 World-wide web support

The save our pool campaign's web-site at saveourpool.co.uk has received over 20,000 hits and messages of support. A priest in Brazil/the Mayor of Brisbane Australia had sent some pictures of a demolished pool building.

6.6 High Profile Celebrity support

Many actors, public figures and celebrities have stopped by the pool to support the campaign.

7. HEALTH ISSUES

7.1 Health Study

The pool campaign from its own resources has funded a health feasibility study in the area to assess the real impact of the pool closure on the local community. Support has been widespread with local residents, schools and patients taking time to complete the forms.

The results of this study are currently being collated, however a few key issues are being raised again and again. When asked what people like/dislike about traditional pools and what they like/dislike about leisure pools again and again it is said that the traditional pool of Govanhill was friendly and had a strong community feeling, unlike the leisure pools which are regarded as impersonal and clinical. This point should strike a chord with the governments policies on neighbourhood and community cohesion, in Govanhill, a community "at risk" the pool was an oasis of calm, a place to feel a part of a together community. Such facilities should be encouraged, not destroyed.

A great many people also mentioned the distance and inaccessibility of the new facilities, this is proving a powerful disincentive for many people, to the extent that they have either given up swimming or have drastically reduced the amount of swimming they do.

More worryingly, Glasgow City Councils flagship public health initiative—"free swimming for kids" is floundering in Govanhill—early indications show that a significant number of local children have failed to apply for the free swim card, despite being regular swimmers at Govanhill, they cannot travel to the new distant facilities themselves and their parents cannot afford to take them.

7.2 Results from the health survey

Below is a selection of quotes from local people, from the questionnaires:

"People need to have facilities so that they can have no excuse for being heart attacks-in-waiting"—Pollokshields resident, female 26-40.

On Govanhill pool "a valuable local facility that catered for the needs of the community, deliberately run down by the Council"—Govanhill resident, female age 26-40.

"I am a personal carer and now have to make extra arrangements to care for my relative while travelling to a distant pool. I used Govanhill pool twice a week but now can only arrange to use Gorbals once a week—travelling time is the main factor."—Govanhill resident, female, age 60+.

"The closure of the pool has not only affected my joints (arthritis) but has also affected by social networks". Female 26-40 Govanhill

Below are some quotes from public health experts, which points to the need for good health promoting facilities in places like Govanhill:

"the key to health improvements is to address the causes of poor health and not just the symptoms".

"implications for public health policy is that attention should be focused on places as well as people".

"public health policy should focus on health promoting or health damaging features of local areas as well as on individual lifestyle factors".

7.3 Casualties of closure

7.3.1 Stroke victim

One of the saddest cases that the campaign that had come to the attention was that of a local resident who used to swim daily at the pool. Since it's closure has been unable to travel to other facilities. Recently this swimmer had a stroke and is now limited mobility. The full impact of the pool closure on this victim cannot be clearly assessed however, there will be many more such cases in the long term.

7.3.2 Mugged swimmers

A female swimmer unable to afford the bus fare to the new pool walked from Govanhill through a park to Bellahouston Pool. On the way she was mugged in the park. On arriving at the pool was told she could not swim as there were too many children in the pool for lane swimming to be possible.

7.3.3 Territorial pools

Young people attempted to use the Gorbals pool are being threatened by Gorbal youths stating that people from Govanhill are not allowed to use their pool.

8. POLITICAL SUPPORT

8.1 MPs

Local MP's including Mohammed Sarwar (Govan) and David Marshall (Shettleston) have both pledged support and have tried to liaise with the local council. As many MPs will be aware of their talks with their own local councils that they have not appreciated their involvement. Mr Sarwar referred to the Council Leader as the "City's Godfather" the Untouchable.

8.2 House of Lords

Baroness Kennedy of Pollok had contacted the campaign to register her support as she had apparently used the facilities of the pool.

8.3 MSP's

MSP's including Nicola Sturgeon, Dorothy Grace Elder amongst others have brought the Govanhill pool situation to the attention of the Scottish Executive but was unable to gain sufficient support.

8.4 Local Councillors

Like many pool campaigns around Britain, local councillors, despite letters, e-mails and visits to the local surgery, sadly have been unwilling to discuss the pool issue in a mature democratic way. This has been the same in Govanhill as in other areas, and has towed the official party line. In areas where one party controlled Town Halls for long periods local democracy suffers and is not popular. In both Liverpool and Lambeth once considered safely controlled Councils the local electorate fed up of such arrogance and voted out the ruling party.

8.5 Other Support

Kingston Swimming Club, Queens Park Swimming Club, Govanhill Amateur Swimming Club, Men's Fitness Swimming Club, Talim Trust, Govanhill Housing Association. Various pool campaigns around Britain including Victoria Baths and Gorton Tub in Manchester.

9. RELIGIOUS SUPPORT

9.1 Local Mosque Leaders

Local mosque leaders have supported the campaign as they have lost a valuable local facility that was suitable for Asian women to use. The Council states that they have taken this into account when building new local pools. The extent to which the Council was out of touch was building glass fronted buildings for pools and believing that this would be accepteable to Asian women who are unable to show their legs in public.

9.2 Church Leaders

Various denominational church leaders have supported the campaign recognising the importance of local, affordable amenities for the welfare of the local community. Spending several pounds to go swimming by public transport to the nearest pools is not an option for many.

9.3 Synagogue Leaders

Synagogue leaders like the other religious leaders have also pledged their support.

9.4 Gudwara Leaders

Local temple leaders have also backed the campaign.

10. MEDIA

Local and national media have covered the campaign recognising the importance of local accountability and democracy. There have been several hundred articles and features in the newspapers, national and local news and radio.

Journalist of the Decade, Paul Foot, amongst others has written to register his support for the campaign.

11. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING

My father used to work across the road from the Houses of Parliament at Westminster Underground Station. As a child I would often visit him at his work place. He was convinced that politicians at Westminster were not interested in what the average person on the street had to say and was definitely not interested in what the ethnic minorities have to say. I am pleased that times have changed since those times. The pool campaign is fully aware that Heritage is a devolved matter. However, the experiences of Govanhill have national implications and is current and still pending. Whatever the outcome of the your report I am personally enormously grateful to the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee for allowing me the time and opportunity to present this case and for listening.

Elected representatives must listen to their electorate to ensure that the best value and best solutions are found to meet local needs and requirements. If politicians are unwilling to listen they lose touch with their electorate and are unable to deliver on their promises or local needs. It is important in our parliamentary democracy that elected representatives listen and create opportunities to hear from ordinary people. On behalf of the people of Govanhill thank you for listening.

12. IN SUMMARY

12.1 The pool is part of the community

Baroness Thatcher (whose name the room bears where the evidence is due to be submitted), once said there is no such thing as Society. When local amenities and community facilities are closed the very fabric of that community is undermined and its very heart destroyed. A situation far worse than Baroness Thatcher's images emerges the community becomes a society of individuals. The health of the individual is affected by the health of the community. Better health arises when the individual feels part of a community and able to participate in the well-being of that society. The Govanhill pool campaign is not just merely about the closure of a valuable local resource, but the saving of a community from the brink of destruction, despair, social deprivation and inequalities that are a common feature in many inner city areas throughout the country.

12.2 Local communities should have the opportunity and a chance to succeed

Prince William recently came to see for himself problems in Sighthill. The problems gained national attention sadly when a death arose. Although the worst conflict of Govanhill also occurred around that time we did not get a visit. We do not want violent deaths on our streets in order to gain media attention and Royal visits. The pool campaign is a peaceful protest to re-open a much missed and valued local facility. We do need support and encouragement. Forums such as this Select Committee and meeting our pool campaigns gives us strength and determination to persevere for years if necessary.

12. RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION

1. Help stop institutional vandalism of our National Heritage by encouraging proper community involvement in their future

It is clear that such examples of institutional vandalism are planned although not discussed long in advance of closure. Before a closure of a local facility is proposed, there needs to be widespread local involvement in the preserving of their local facility. The Government has published ideas concerning best value that the local communities are the best source of ideas to solve local problems. It is right that the local community should be involved. In many examples around the country what has been displayed is apparent cowardly acts of leadership, where elected representatives believe that they have a monopoly on good ideas.

2. Any consideration of closure should take into account the full social impact on the community

Government should develop guidelines to ensure that the full impact, (such as health, social exclusion, social and religious factors etc) of the closure of local facilities are properly considered and taken into account.

3. Proper and accurate assessment of local needs

The needs and reasonable realistic expectations of the local community need to be properly assessed and considered. It is clearly a waste of finite public resources when local amenities are not what are required or able to use what they are given due to poor consultation.

There needs to be a real openness and honesty about the problems to generate solutions.

4. All sources of funding need to be properly considered an evaluated before closure is considered

All sources of funding need to be considered prior to closure to ensure that limited private and public resources are not squandered due to poor action at the appropriate stage by the relevant authorities. In the case of closed swimming pools adequate security and prevention of water penetration needs to be founded and taken into account.

5. Lottery funding needs to be more flexible

The availability of Lottery and other funding needs to be clearly identified and a network of support developed to assist and support local community applications for funding. The threshold needs to be more flexible to take into account local circumstances. This is a very complex area and involved putting together business plans etc that are often abstract to local communities.

6. Proper accountability from Public bodies giving local Councils funding

Public bodies providing funding to local community should demand a local accountability from local councils to ensure that funds are used for their intended purpose.

7. The real impact on swimming groups needs to be considered effectively

Swimming groups are an important part of widening the sport to a broader appeal enabling young and old to achieve their full potential. Future Olympic champions emerge when they are supported, encouraged and nurtured to achieve their full potential. In the case of Govanhill many of the swimming groups have halved in size, as members are not able to afford the additional transport costs and time needed to travel to new venues.

The funding of swimming as a sport needs to be considered carefully to ensure that there is a fair distribution of resources at all levels and not just popular or well known cases.

In Australia where I have just returned in April there is a genuine support at all levels of Government, local councils and communities preventing the likelihood of social exclusion which is now at the heart of Government policy. If a similar approach could be adopted in Britain the quality of swimming in Britain could be dramatically changed.

The Government and its policies will be assessed on the way it has been delivered. This report from the Calder Street Pool demonstrates that in so many policy documents and reports, Government and public policies are not being implemented at the local council level, in Glasgow and many examples throughout the country.

27 November 2001

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